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[Debate] Phoenix Objects!Speak your mind on the topics of the day.
Anarchism is essentially a fight for human freedom. Modern states, even those which claim to be democracies, stifle their citizens with oppressive and artificial machinery such as laws and taxes. These are imposed by the people who run the state - the elites, the governing classes. Anarchists believe it is better to live without such controls imposed by such people. This does not mean they stand for complete chaos though; they support co-operation and barter between individuals as profitable. Only without controls can humans truly live naturally and freely.
Anarchists believe in a classless society. Modern democracies are divided into classes that continually fight each other; states have created barriers between men that cause hatred and misery. Anarchy removes these barriers, by removing the apparatus that makes economic subjection of others possible.
States also repress their citizens by removing their ability to govern themselves. Most ‘democracies’ are in fact nothing of the sort; is a general election every 5 years really fully representative of individual’s opinions ? The existence of ‘spin-doctors’ and other such practices shows how governments are misleading the people, not being controlled by them.
Anarchism has nothing to do with violent organizations that hijack anarchist events for their own reasons. The vast majority are peaceable protesters who would never use violence, and it is lowering the tone of the debate to try and condemn anarchism by association in this way. Anarchism is a viable and fair way of life, that allows humans to live and interact naturally, without a Big Brother controlling us.
Arguments Against:
Anarchism is marked by exactly this sort of Utopian, unrealistic argument - a diatribe based on the principle that the grass is always greener on the other side. Far from freeing humans, anarchy allow them to be dominated by primitive forces that a controlling state has eliminated, such as the use of physical force by the strong to oppress the weak. Laws and a police force are necessary to prevent this. What is more, a state allows industries to be organized and crops to be grown so as to support its citizens, and without these high-intensity techniques there is no way that all the population could be fed. All advances in art and science have been made possible by a state that brings people and resources together. Anarchism is merely a backward and dreamy approach to serious political matters.
Classless societies are impossible. Some men and women achieve dominance over others due to natural intelligence, skill, cunning, attractiveness or any other advantage. This is nothing to do with a state, and anarchism would not make everyone equal.
Granted, there are many problems with democracy. But these can all be solved within the state structure, by devolving power downwards into regional government, and by holding more frequent referenda. There is no need to do away with the state altogether.
As can clearly be seen from recent violent act, such as the May Day riots, anarchy is largely a front for organized terrorists gangs and violence-seeking thugs. Their activities are also cover for other civil trouble-makers, such as violent animal rights activists. Their calls for ‘pacifism’ belie their true nature, and their arguments smack of dangerous utopianism. Anarchists seek to subvert all the advances made my mankind over the last millennium.
All are random arguments that I found around the web. The first bullet of each side is on the same subject and so on.
Thoughts? Opinions?
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I think most people who want Anarchy are just liberals who want the government to have less power. I highly doubt any intelligent person (that excludes all the teenagers who shout "fuck the system!") would want an anarchist system, because that would mean saying goodbye to the luxuries were seem to take for granted.
Certain towns will be taken advantage of because the hospital owner is the only one for miles and charges whatever he wants. The school owner is not regulated to teach everything or provide schools with what they need or what students want, and he doesn't because the profit margin is higher without an athletic team etc.
I am not a big fan of the government, but it is necessary.
Without it there is no order or set laws. Corruption exists in any form of government so yeah..
I don't support Anarchy.
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Меня зовут Чэлси
Я был смертельно влюблен женщины.
Revenge Is Sweeter (Than You Ever Were)
In my memory,
I wrote you down in ink.
I never wanted to erase your story, even with the tragedy it brings.
{07/17/1990 - 09/12/2005}
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{11.14.08}
{MK, JJ, AS, KBF}
{R.I.P.}
Ehh.....I can see where the anarchists are coming from but it is a lot of wishful thinking.. Human nature won't allow a classless society to ever exist humans will always treat their fellow humans better or worse depending on what they possess be it intelligence or some form of wealth.
However hoping to change society from the inside is also wishful thinking...but I guess its the smarter wishful thought because at least you'll be safe while your hopes of governmental change fall to pieces O.o